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Oncology Overdrive

Oct 27, 2022

In this episode, host Shikha Jain, MD, speaks with retired Commanding General of the US Army, Lieutenant General Mark Hertling, about the similar responsibilities of doctors and soldiers, what makes a strong leader in the health care space and more.

  • Welcome to another exciting episode of Oncology Overdrive :14
  • About Hertling :21
  • The interview 2:51
  • How did you start in your career, and how did you get to where you are today? 3:11
  • What types of things do you think translate over, and how do you use the skills that you’ve been cultivating over the years [as a General] to translate into the health care world? 7:40
  • Do you see a lot of parallels between leading on the battlefield and leading on the “front lines” of health care during the pandemic? … What have you been advising over the last several years on how to be effective leaders during a time like this? 11:17
  • Do you think that there is utility and benefits in getting more physicians into leadership in concert with the administrations that are already there to help regain some of the autonomy that’s been lost in health care over the last several decades? 17:52
  • Jain and Hertling on training physicians and nurses in leadership and creating trust between physicians and administrators in health care organizations 22:55
  • How being a leader as a physician can look like many different skillsets in health care 28:43
  • Can you talk about the war in Ukraine, and how it’s impacting us here in the US? 31:41
  • Is there anything to be optimistic about when it comes to climate change, the ongoing pandemic and war? … Do you think that any of these things can be righted? 36:10
  • If someone could only take one snippet of this entire episode, what would you want them to take away and remember? 41:40
  • How to contact Hertling 41:58
  • Thanks for listening 43:32

Lieutenant General Mark Hertling is a retired Commanding General of the US Army, and a military and national security analyst for CNN/CNN International.

We’d love to hear from you! Send your comments/questions to Dr. Jain at Follow us on Twitter @HemOncToday and @ShikhaJainMD. Hertling can be reached on Twitter @MarkHertling, or by searching “Mark Hertling” on LinkedIn.

Disclosures: Hertling and Jain report no relevant financial disclosures.